Between
Two Worlds, Creating a Third
Interview, Part 1
by Mark S. Tucker
December 2010
Kevin Kastning is a somber, introspective, serious musician who has produced a
series of duet guitar CD's that would be proclaimed a succession of rara avis'es
in any time period in any culture. One could name such works as 'chamber jazz,'
for lack of a better term, while looking to the best examples yet produced (the
ECM label) but their true derivation lies in the classicalist canon. Kastning
has absorbed a wide spectrum of the esteemed masters from de Machaut to Berg and
beyond, so it comes as no surprise that the textures of Beethoven's "Moonlight
Sonata" Gregorian chant's unearthly ache and melancholy, and Mahler's moody
fantasias are just as present as Satie's gymnopedies and gnossiennes, Messiaen's
spatial irrealities and Schnittke's abstractions. None of these, however, is
ever stated within their own terms; Kastning has made them his own.
He looks for the compelling stain of genius in everything, and this is why his
pair-up with Siegfried and with Sandor Szabo have resulted in releases that
recall the zenith of the Towner/Abercrombie team, Bill Connor's darkest aspects,
Egberto Gismonti's most intense thoughtfulness and a small number of other
guitarists who have, to one degree or another, experimented in this mode: Philip
Catherine, Steve Khan, Larry Coryell, Jukka Tolonen, Alain Markusfeld, etc.,
though I perhaps err a bit in citing them. Again, this is by no means common
music.
To listen to Kastning's work is to plunge into, bringing into service the label
name, a greymist world. The atmospheres are vast and cloudy, riddled with fogs,
barren wastes, lowering skies, phantasmal presences, echoes of incidents lurking
at the border of perception. Each track induces a laconic contemplation subtly
enthralling. The confines of the master fantasists (Hodgson, Lovecraft, Vance,
Delaney, etc.) are evoked, though little is threatening in Kastning's realms.
Rather, an exquisite tension is maintained, a sense of forever being on the
verge of some revelation that will be enlightening while disquieting, a form of
existentialism laced with nihilism within stoically Socratic netherlands.
The sympathies between this guitarist and his partners is almost spooky. In a
concatenation of extemporaneous stylings, rapport is achieved preternaturally,
telepathic in harmony. Anyone truly enraptured by the instrument and its further
possibilities in acoustic expression - this necessarily precludes most general
music audients - recognizes two landmarks in this mode: the aforementioned
Towner & Abercrombie's Sargasso Sea and Five Years Later. As a sidenote, I was
fortunate enough, many years ago, to have caught those two masters on tour at
Hop Singh's in Culver City, California (it didn't hurt that the thoroughly
neglected leonine Wayne Johnson opened for them either), and it has remained to
this day one of the most riveting displays of musicianship I've yet witnessed.
Keeping in mind that I've seen Jimi Hendrix, Pat Metheny, Tomasz Stanko, the
Moody Blues, Srinivas, the Hyderabad Bros., Stevie Ray Vaughan, Philip Glass and
myriad stellar acts in concert, I do not make that statement lightly and thus
boast of having a small rough idea of what constitutes great music. Kastning,
Szabo, and Siegfried all sit as explorers constituted of exceptional prowess,
kindred to the above. They, the CandyRat label, and too few others are taking
the acoustic guitar into new dimensions. Those who think the possibilities in
the instrument have been exhausted are in for a surprise.
It's easy to get lost in such music, elevated mind theater of a stripe rarely
encountered, painting in the air, sonic sculptures. Therefore, when interviewing
Kevin, I decided to forego most of the standard inquiries regarding data
otherwise available on the Web, posing just enough within technology aspects to
orient the reader to the unorthodoxy of every aspect of this gentleman,
afterwards zeroing in much more fully on aesthetics and art qua art. Thus, this
first section hits the brick and mortar fundament more than the second will.
I've read interviews with Kevin, perused some of his writings, and we'd
e-chatted here and there following my reviews, in various venues, of his work,
so I know him to be of enviable intelligence, rare comportment, and, well, just
a nice guy. I think the reader will readily agree, while perhaps a bit daunted
by the depths to which one guitarist descends to unearth that which composes his
music... and himself.
PSF: I'd like to address a few mechanics first - and I apologize for any
redundancies that may occur with past interviews, but I'd like PSF readers based
properly in this matter - then dive into aesthetics. You've had modified guitars
built for you by the Santa Cruz luthiers. How did that come about? Who
approached who, and what were the discontents with standard design?
KK: Around 1999 or 2000, I began speaking with Santa Cruz about a modified
D-type guitar. I love the rich, smoky, throaty, wide voice of their Ds, as much
as that voice just speaks to me very directly and emotionally. The drawback, the
discontent, with D types from other makers is that they are bass-heavy voices by
nature, which I like in a D. However, with other makers, it stops there. The
upper registers are usually not well balanced, and do not speak nearly as well
as the bass registers. Usually the upper registers are dark, muddy and
compressed. I had a couple of Martin D-28s which had the depth of voice I
wanted, but as I moved up into the upper registers, it was as if someone was
pulling back the gain slider; the top end was compromised and just wasn't there.
The Santa Cruz Ds are not like that; they have a deep and roaring bass register,
but they are the most well-balanced Ds I've heard; the upper registers are just
sparkly and full. I also find their instruments to be very responsive. So I
began speaking with them about one of their Ds, but there were some
modifications I wanted. One was a cutaway, to access the upper registers. And
slightly altered voicing. As I spoke with them over the course of a few weeks, I
got to know their (at that time) production manager, Dan Roberts. Dan and I
established a rare lingua franca regarding luthiery and instrument voices.
PSF: Let me interrupt for a moment, as I'm struck with this desire to
articulate darkness. When I was interviewing organomorphic architect James
Hubbell (for a book that never got off the ground), he was adamant that we
should leave darkness alone because it's the source of art and inspiration, a
sentiment I understood and respected but did not agree with - well, the "leave
it alone" aspect only - for various reasons, and here you are exploring how that
mapping can be done from a mechanistic aspect, which I find a singular and
fascinating exploration.
KK: It would be interesting to discuss that with James Turrell. I find his work
endlessly fascinating, and even tangibly audible. I've been in installations of
his where I just get lost, and I mean that literally. Some of his work is so
all-encompassing and immersive that spatial relationships and distance either
change meaning, or dissolve altogether. I can clearly see various sides for and
against Hubbell's point. It may be that artists are fearful of looking too
closely at what I term "the source," which he may define as darkness, or asking
questions of it or about it. I don't see it as darkness, or a darkness; other
than it is not tangible or corporeal. I can understand that, by its very nature
of being amorphous, this could be interpreted as darkness, since there is
nothing to physically see or grasp. I would also posit that for others, it may
not be a darkness, but a source of light. I again nod to Mr. Turrell. I've done
my own questioning in the past, and looked at it as much as possible. I don't
think that I emerged out the other end of that process any closer to having a
concrete grasp or understanding. Yet what I have learned is not to question the
actual process itself. I think attempts can and maybe even should be made to
examine the source, but, in the moment, I have come to find in my work that I
just have to trust it and let it lead me. I am by nature highly inquisitive,
but, at the same time, I feel that I am here to serve art in whatever direction
it might take. It's like a river meander. A river meander, being an element of
nature, is going hold interest and beauty; and is a kind of natural art moreso
than something like a canal, which is arguably a man-made river, thus having
little or no meander. I try to take myself out of where the river wants to go,
and let the meander take its own course and happen as it will, an organic rather
than a controlled process.
As far as the KK series instruments relate to this, the process is almost akin
to having a sound in my head before the instrument exists, in my brain, in my
ears, floating a like a huge, transparent, delicate bubble of liquid. Each time
this has happened, compositions form and exist within the bubble. My task is to
relate and explain that bubble of liquid to Dan, to try to put an instrument
around that sound, that texture, that sonic environment. The sound fully exists
before the instrument is built, yet it is not of the physical world. Dan's task
is to manifest that sound environment and landscape into the physical in the
form of an instrument. With each instrument, the sounds, compositions, and
processes have grown ever more complex, expanding. Originally, with the custom D
from Santa Cruz, it was a simpler process to extract a dark yet not unbalanced
voice out of an already existing and known instrument platform and type.
So, in pursuing that, it took the better part of a year for the first D to be
completed, but it was and is a wonderful instrument. Dan went far and above what
I had requested without asking me, but clearly knew what I was seeking. A year
later, I mentioned to him that I was thinking of commissioning a modified OM
from Santa Cruz. A D and an OM are both 6-string concert-tuned instruments, but
the voices are almost at opposite ends of the spectrum, and thus complement each
other nicely. He asked me if I'd consider becoming an artist endorser for them,
and we could really work on the OM together. I said oh no, you don't want ME as
an artist endorser! No one knows me, I'm not going to help your company at all.
He just said to think about it. I called him again in a few months, and said I
wanted to discuss some OM design possibilities; for example, an extended
fingerboard in concert with a cutaway and some specific voicings. He was
agreeable, and again asked if I'd do an artist endorsement for them. I again
became squeamish. Dan said something that really spoke to me that day, after I
again said "you really don't want me for this." Dan said that no one was doing
anything like my music. No one was doing what I was doing, and he found it to be
totally originally and truly artistic. He said that my music put much in the way
of demands on an instrument, and for Santa Cruz to be associated with my music
would mean a lot to them. He said they wanted to partner with me and support
what I was doing; that it wasn't about fame or commerce, but about the music.
That really spoke to me. So, after mulling it around for a few months... I
called him again. I said yes, let's move forward on the OM, and I'll become an
artist endorser, too. Dan really went all out on it, and the voice I had spent
months describing to him was right there in the OM when it arrived here.
Completely and entirely.
PSF: This is so rare, this collusion just to forward art, shared among
kindred minds, tackling the obtuser aspects of how it's really done. I know
Matthew Montfort and a few other guitarists are interested in expanding the
range and palette of the instrument are engaged in similar efforts but not to
this degree. We've seen John McLaughlin, Alan Holdsworth, and others strike
somewhat into the territory but never with such rapport, single-mindedness, and
dedication.
KK: Well, around this time, 2002 I think, I had just finished an album with
Siegfried called Book of Days, and we were beginning to work on new compositions
which would become the album Bichromial. In 2004, I utilized both the D and OM
on early sessions for Bichromial; it was about an eight-month recording process.
During the months we were in the studio, I began to hear and compose pieces for
a low-register string instrument. Lower than guitar, but not a bass. I could not
realize or execute these pieces on guitar; the register was all wrong, the scale
length was wrong, the voice was all wrong, the textures were not there. I called
Dan and started to explain what I was hearing to see if he had any suggestions.
He said "You're describing a baritone guitar." I said "What's that?" I had never
heard of this. I asked him some questions about the baritone registers and
tunings. It sounded intriguing. He said why don't you let me send one over to
you; you can use it in the studio, see if that's what you're hearing. He shipped
out a Santa Cruz DBB baritone to me. It was tuned to C below E when it arrived,
which is the lowest tuning for which it was designed. It was in the direction
of, but not exactly, what I was hearing. I experimented with string gauges and
lowered tunings for weeks, finally settling on A below E. It wasn't perfect, as
the instrument wasn't designed for this, the registers weren't balanced; the
lowest notes on the A string didn't speak as well as the rest of the range, but
it was pretty close. Nonetheless, it was certainly encouraging and even
exciting.
PSF: What, then, was the upshot?
KK: There are several pieces on Bichromial which were recorded using that DBB. I
was really falling in love with it. After the record was released, I was talking
to Dan about what I perceived to be the limitations of the DBB, but they really
weren't limitations as such. The guitar just was not meant to be tuned as low as
I was using it, nor was it designed to support the semi-massive string gauges I
was utilizing. I was really pushing it beyond anything it was designed to do. We
began talking about what I came to call an "extended baritone," which would have
a longer scale tuned to F# below E, which is one whole step above a bass guitar.
Heavier string gauges for sure. We had to modify the low two tuners to accept
the larger gauges as well as craft a wider neck and fingerboard. Santa Cruz
happily built this for me, which came to be called the DKK in their model
nomenclature. It arrived about midway through the recording sessions for the
album which would be released as Scalar Fields.
I was very excited about it; this was exactly what I had been hearing. It was
perfect. The DKK has this cello-like singing quality in the upper registers,
which was a wonderful surprise; neither Dan nor I knew what the upper registers
would be since it was such a bass-register instrument. Such an experiment had
never before been attempted, but, all through the design and build process, the
one thing I stressed regarding the instrument voice was balance. Yes, it was a
bass-register instrument, but I tend to use the full ranges of instruments, so I
wanted the upper registers to speak equally well. It was all that and more; it's
just a massive edifice of a huge, pipe-organ-cello kind of rumbling singing
fantasy. I used it on about half of the pieces on Scalar Fields.
PSF: The grail was found? The quest ended?
KK: Just after Scalar Fields was released, I was out one day, thinking
about the two instruments I'd used most on those sessions: my Martin 12-string,
and the DKK extended baritone. The thought just popped into my head: "Too bad
they can't be combined." Instant satori. I remember just stopping and heading
for a phone. I called Dan, and said "Let's do a 12-string version of the DKK." I
explained the tuning scenario I had in mind along with a couple of quick
details, tunings, and scale length. I asked Dan if he thought it was possible.
He said "Yes, I think so". We spent about a year on that one, which came to be
called the DKK-12. It was also tuned to F# below E, but, unlike a concert
12-string, all courses are in octaves, no unisons. When it arrived, I was just
flabbergasted. I'd never heard anything like it. Dan and Santa Cruz had once
again exceeded my expectations by a very wide margin. The first record on which
I used the DKK-12 was Resonance, with Sandor Szabo. In fact, once Sandor heard
it, he ordered a 12-string baritone too! Since 2006, the DKK-12 has been my main
instrument voice.
PHOTO:
The KK series guitars
PSF: The never-ending journey. I suspect you'll sooner or later begin to
envision extensions to the DKK-12. I've always wondered if, for instance, harp
guitars couldn't be improved to achieve a more muscular and active response from
the drone strings or perhaps if, say, a 10 to 15 non-paired-string acoustic
guitar mightn't be variably tunable to provide playable drones as well as active
strings. Given the ceaseless quest for innovation and the advancing of
expression, these thoughts occupy the aesthete and the creative listener. You
seem very much interested in expanding accepted borders, so I wonder what future
design alterations you foresee, and what would, though it may presently be just
on the barely pragmatic side of possible, be your dream guitar?
KK: Interesting timing on this question, as a new
invention of mine called a Contraguitar just arrived here a couple of weeks ago.
This is a long scale, 14-string, 7-course instrument. The full story behind it
is on my site so I won't repeat it here. This is pretty close to a dream
instrument for me. I've worked on it with Dan for over three years (he departed
Santa Cruz and has since founded his own company: Daniel Roberts Stringworks;
the Contraguitar was built by the new Stringworks). One factor that influenced
its design is the 11-string, 11-course Altengitarre, which is a short-scale
classical guitar tuned to G above E for courses 1 through 6; the remaining five
strings are usually tuned stepwise, descending. This is an instrument originally
intended for playing renaissance and baroque lute transcriptions, though I've
yet to use it for that. The low five courses were designed as continuo, or drone
strings, meant to be played open, not stopped. Again, not how I was using it. I
was utilizing all 11 courses equally. But the lowest bass courses are somewhat
difficult to reach. So the width of the neck and fingerboard for the
Contraguitar were impacted by the width of the neck and fingerboard on the
Altengitarre, as well as the reach. The Contraguitar will most likely become my
main instrument going forward. It's tuned E (bass) through A and covers the
registers of a bass, a baritone, and is up into the low alto range as well.
While it was originally conceived as the logical extension of the direction in
which I was going with the DKK-12, it has turned out to be an order of magnitude
beyond that. The Contraguitar covers the registers of three separate
instruments: bass, baritone, and guitar; as well as dipping into the low alto
registers. I've already been speaking with Dan about the next phase; it will be
something in the 16 to 18 string region in a course configuration of 8 to 11.
The Contraguitar was born exactly like the DKK: I had compositions for which an
instrument to realize them did not exist. It's an astounding instrument - again,
exceeding my expectations. I just can't hear it enough.
PSF: And, from what I'm inferring as you delineate all this, there are
always new problems. What cropped up now?
KK: Well, there is the issue of tunings. On the DKK-12 and the KK-Alto, I've
devised various sets of intervallic tunings. In these tuning scenarios, the root
or diapason string remains constant, while the octave strings are no longer
tuned to octaves, but each course is tuned to a different interval. Harmonic
possibilities just exploded. This has unlocked entire new worlds for me, new
colors have been discovered, and the depth and breadth of what was possible has
expanded exponentially... and is continuing to expand as I learn the Contra.
Harmoonic and compositional horizons surround the distance.
PSF: Let's turn to engineering matters. The recording method you prefer -
microphone to preamp to recorder - sounds a lot like Robert Fripp's audio verite
work. In this, I'm guessing you like as pure an immediate constructionist
approach as can be attained as versus the artificiality of 'post' work (dub-ins,
pitch control, effects, etc.)...not to mention as much of the player's presence
co-equal to the guitar itself as can be met. This, of course, leads to an
inquiry regarding synthesizers and such, which are fairly distancing on several
levels. You compose for piano but are you eschewing interpolating synths into
your guitar 'darkworks' or, for that matter, any of the composing you do?
KK: Correct, that is my preferred studio approach. It is quite direct - yet not
just direct, it's a captured performance, no different than an orchestra in a
concert hall surrounded by recording gear. For me, it's the most beautiful and
pure vehicle for capturing what is otherwise ephemeral. To use the work I've
done with Sandor as an example for this question: what is the difference between
composing on manuscript score paper and composing to tape? Both are equally
valid compositional doctrine with the same terminus. The end point of both is a
completed composition. A composition in a printed score is little more than
frozen improvisation. In real-time composition, the tape becomes the manuscript
score paper; thus, the process of capturing this composition should be as pure
as possible.
PSF: I'm so glad you brought a crucial point up: the fact that
compositions and improvisations are basically the same thing. I've had arguments
with other critics and encountered resistance, yet when I interview musicians
like Tomasz Stanko, they speak precisely in that direction. I have to shake my
head when I read composers and players maintaining that composing and
improvising are distinct and separate activities. Plainly, they are not. One
starts from nothing and creates, the other creates atop a given platform, but
both are new material no matter how you look at it. I think if classical
musicians could understand this, they'd cease being duplication machines and
strike out more on their own as distinct creative artists a la Kronos Quartet
and others.
KK: Yeah, I would imagine you'd get that from other critics. Not being artists,
they'd not have the experience of being a part of that creative process, of that
birthing procedure. You're rare in that you not only see it, you understand it
and get it. On the other hand, I don't really see you as a critic! I would not
be surprised if you received that reaction from some musicians as well.
Composing and improvisation take different forms, are sometimes achieved with
different media, differing locus - manuscript paper versus tape, for example.
But the end game, the intersection, results in a composition. Frozen
improvisation. And I must stress that I speak now of pure improvisation, wherein
the entire composition and everything in it, is created - everything, every
compositional element - not a jazz improvisation where the soloist is locked
into a pre-existing framework of predetermined diatonic chords and form. Fixed
harmony. Fixed meter and rhythm. Fixed and very finite form. The end result in
this scenario is merely differing melodies over the chord changes and repeat.
This is a type of improvisation to be sure, an element OF improvisation, but it
is not pure. It is only one element of composition, not entire compositions.
It's the difference between painting a house and architecting it.
The classical musicians I know... well, it's a different discipline. In
conservatory, they're not taught composition. They're not exposed to the tools
of composition or any element of that discipline. They learn their instrument,
but only as it applies to sight-reading and interpretation. I do have tremendous
respect for this process and for the musicians too. I'm not trying to take away
from that. I was once in a master class of a very well-known classical
guitarist. I won't mention her name, but she is currently the head of the guitar
department of a highly respected conservatory. She played a couple of pieces
very beautifully, great technique to be sure. There was a Q and A session after
the class, for which I stayed. Someone asked her "How do you feel basing your
entire career on never having created a single note of your own?" She got a
completely blank look on her face and said "I don't know what you mean." The
audience member politely explained that she was an interpeter, not a creator,
and asked if that bothered her. Again, blank stare, but this time she simply
said "No." Now, if this is what someone wants to do, if this is their passion,
that's a wonderful thing. But the disquieting part of this scenario is that the
thought of composing or the act of creating, not re-creating, seems to have
never occurred to her. So foreign was this concept that she didn't even seem to
know how to answer the question. I have seen this syndrome in many, though not
all, of the classical musicians I've known. I've put that question, though in
gentler form, to a few classical musicians with whom I was comfortable. Some
didn't know what to say. Regarding the matter of composing, one particularly
honest one replied "I don't know how to do that." I pointed out that they could
learn. I received a shrug in reply. Then again, the obverse of this would be
someone asking me if I'd ever thought about never composing a single note and
only focusing on recreating the compositions of others. It would probably be my
turn for a blank stare.
But, getting back to your curiosity about keyboards, I haven't composed or
recorded anything involving electric keyboards (synthesizer) yet. Yet. I mean, I
have composed pieces for cathedral organ, harpsichord, 10 piano sonatas thus
far; you know, acoustic keyboard instruments, nothing yet for electric
keyboards. I don't know if I will, but I know if I say I never will, the next
record will be synthesizer and guitar pieces (chuckles). I have spoken with
Chuck Wild a bit about a project, but due to his label contractual obligations,
we can't do it. I've heard some lush and atmospheric orchestral patches which
are very evocative but don't have an overtly synthetic texture. I like those.
They are not trying to emulate real orchestras but, instead, rather unique sonic
textures based on orchestra. Orchestral sui generis. There are instances wherein
an electric instrument, a guitar or a synthesizer, when paired with an acoustic
instrument, can provide very welcoming environments and evocative textures and
sound worlds. The timbral atmosphere of an acoustic/electric duet tends to
magnify the unique sonic and tonal elements of the opposite voice. Instead of
the blend you get with an acoustic duet, in a mixed duet (acoustic and
electric), the stark contrast truly frames each instrument. Executed well, it
can have a genuine and deep emotional impact and reach.
PSF: Yes. Ever since Machaut, who prefigured the Romantic and
Impressionistic in music, sonic transfiguration of emotion has been the
frontier. Previously, the artist had to achieve that through manipulation of
sonority and its applications, rules dominating; now, sonority has to
subordinate to the artist, rules created at need. Atmosphere, not a succession
of well-ordered appointed notes, dictates.
KK: I have a kind of addiction to harmonic atmospheric environments. I've
composed pieces, some string quartets, which incorporate this phenomenon, but
I've not done a recording project of a similar nature involving a mixed duet.
Nothing is planned or in the works, but I would be open to something with
acoustic guitar voices and keyboards if it were the right project and the right
person.
PSF: Do you avoid electric guitar entirely always, even privately, or
just concentrate on acoustic instruments in order to maintain the exquisite
environments you and Szabo, and you and Siegfried, create in that very
particularized fashion?
KK: Yes, total avoidance. The electric doesn't speak to me as something I'd want
to use. In my hands, it feels plastic and synthetic; it's not the thing itself,
there is something between me and "it." For me, in my work, an electric guitar
sounds and feels like the difference between a nine-foot Steinway and a portable
Casio. They both have keys, but are they the same instrument? Acoustic
instruments are very demanding, and I do devote my working time to them. Each KK
series instrument has really been intensely demanding to learn, and now I'm
learning the Contraguitar. Knowledge of concert six-string doesn't map directly
to them, just being able to get a good tone is an entire learning process. In
fact, the Contraguitar is changing aspects of tone production for me; it is akin
to learning an entirely new instrument.
PSF: Myself having both electric and acoustic guitars (and readily
confessing to absolute amateur status) and having listened to innumerable guitar
recordings, I find I have to define the two versions as completely alien to one
another - that is, the acoustic really is a completely different instrument from
the electric in almost all possible ways save for the commonality of possessing
strings and frets. Have you given thought to exploring the possibilities
electric guitars yield in terms of tone, variation, extrapolation, and in fact
entirely new milieus that might stretch the outer limits of your canvases and
visions even more variegatedly?
KK: It is indeed a wholly different instrument. I have in the past played
electric, though I've not touched one in probably 20 years. I've heard true
artists on the instrument - Alan Holdsworth comes to mind - but, for me, with
electric, it seems as if there is something between me and "it." There is an
unnatural barrier, an artifice, a mechanism. With an acoustic, there are no
impediments, it is very direct and organic, everything about it - the touch, the
resonance, the voice, the air being pushed out of it, the fact that it is a more
physical instrument - and I think that's a direct connection to personal touch,
voice, tone, response, and overall technical execution.
On an acoustic instrument, I really think a preponderance of the voice of the
instrument is due in no small part to the player. Tone production is in the
player's fingers. There's just no where to hide; nothing is going to create or
assist in tone production for you. Much of an individual's voice is in his
hands. I don't hear that as much on electric. With electric, there are so many
non-player or non-human variables which impact the end tone: pickups, outboard
effects, amps, amp modeling. With an acoustic instrument, it's just you and it.
I hear more breadth, depth, and vista with an acoustic; yet, at the same time,
it can be so intimate as to be inside your heart. To me, when I'm playing
electric, it's a mechanism. For me, it doesn't feel like a true instrument with
a soul; with a voice.
The key words here are "to me." I have heard true artists on the instrument, I'm
not slagging it. I'm only saying it's not my instrument. As for stretching the
outer limits of canvases and visions, the acoustic guitar, both steel and nylon,
has yet to be really and fully explored. By expanding the ranges and registers
of the acoustic with the extended range instruments I've developed, I hope to
make a small scratch in the surface of what is yet to be discovered and
explored.
PSF: So... electrics are out? End of story?
KK: Well, all that being said (chuckles again), my next record project is an
album with Mark Wingfield, who is a British electric guitarist. Mark's playing
is very expressive and original. He is a rarity in that he has his own
distinctive voice on electric. With myself on acoustic guitars and Mark on
electric, the result will be something rather unusual for us both. I'm looking
forward to it.
PSF: Have you considered turning the mood of your oeuvre a little on its
head and working with, say, an acoustic version of the (electric) piccolo guitar
or any such higher-pitched axe? John Abercrombie has done so with an electric
and achieved distinctively unique turns of sound. Would such a transfer or
augmentation fit your vision?
KK: Again, interesting timing on this question. In 2008, I developed the
12-string KK-alto guitar in cooperation with Santa Cruz. This is a short-scale
6-course 12-string tuned to A above E. The courses are in unisons, not octaves -
or I should say that the starting point is unisons. I do various intervallic
tunings with the alto as well. During a stop on the 2009 European tour, Sandor
and I recorded a new album wherein I am using the alto and the 12-string
extended baritone, each tuned in various intervallic tunings of my own devising.
That record will be out in spring 2011 and is the first album of mine to feature
the A alto guitar. I did some experiments while designing the alto guitar with
my Martin 12-string, using my alto gauges and tuning to G above E. That works,
but just barely. You can hear this instrument on Returning. It's close to the
same alto A register, but the voice is very compressed. The promise and
potential are there, but it doesn't quite work. The KK-Alto in A is an entirely
different beast; the instrument is just alive. It sounds less like a guitar, and
more like an amalgam of harpsichord and mandolin. It is absolutely a different
instrument than the extended baritones; I had to learn it and allow it to teach
me things. For all the KK series instruments, this is a process that is ever
continuing, as is all the growth and expansion.
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